but good news for governor romney. joining me is our panel. first, rick, the good news for the governor is with independents? >> independents. you look throughout the polls, dismacial state-level poll, governor romney is winning independent, sometimes by a lot. this is interesting for a couple of reasons, president obama won independents widely four years ago. john kerry won among independents 8 years ago in the battleground states. so this is a big reversal. can the president lose independents that badly and still win? there is a good chance that the independents look different. a lot of them are probably republicans, calling themselves independents because they are disaffected with the party and they are tea partyers. but it is a major shift to see independents, people who call themselves independents not going for president obama. you ask the romney folks and they say, this is a sign of weakness. this says our guy is very much in the mix, despite the battlegrounds. >> greta: steve, which team would you rather be on? >> right now? if you ask